Is it really okay to be proud about being English?

What is England? What is Englishness? Mattes is joined by Tom Baldwin and Mark Steers, authors of a fascinating new deep exploration of the question of nationalism, called England: seven myths that changed a country and how to fix them, This is a wide-ranging conversation on his journey from Runnymede to Hull via Plymouth, Wolverhampton, Oxford, Blackpool and Greenwich to discover the real England. enjoy!